Arsenal – Leeds Preview

By: Martin | January 8th, 2012
   

Well, as Homey mentioned yesterday, I’m back here blogging hopefully pretty regularly. And first up is our 3rd Round FA Cup tie with Leeds at the Emirates tomorrow:

As you probably remember, we actually played Leeds in the same round of the FA Cup. Some brilliant, no doubt dashingly handsome blogger wrote a preview of that match, and wrote as follows:

Leeds, of course, are one of the traditional big footballing clubs –they’ve won the first division 3 times, most recently in 1992, reached 4 FA Cup finals in a span of 8 years in the late 60s and early 70s. They reached the European Cup final in 1975, and the Champions League semifinal in 2001. And we have some history with them in this competition – Leeds beat Arsenal 1-0 in the 1972 FA Cup final to deny Arsenal back-to-back titles (a game featuring a young whippersnapper named Pat Rice for the Gunners).

In more modern times, though, they are probably best known as a cautionary tale for fiscal mismanagement. Much of Leeds’s success in the late 90s and early 00s was bought with essentially borrowed money, and they put themselves in a position where they had no way of breaking even if they did not qualify for the Champions League. When they finished 5th and lost that revenue stream, they had to sell Rio Ferdinand to make up the difference. The manager quit over this, the new manager was less successful, they had to sell more players to service their loans, they got even worse, etc., etc. In 2004, just 3 years after being in the final 4 of the Champions League, Leeds was relegated. In 2007, due largely to a 10-point penalty for financial irresponsibility, Leeds were once again relegated to League One. It was the first time Leeds had been in the third tier.

But they bottomed out, hired a decent manager in Simon Grayson, and started the arduous task of climbing back up. Leeds is somewhat fortunate in that is the main club in one of England’s largest cities (4th-largest, to be exact, slightly less populous than Liverpool and more populous than: Manchester, Sheffield, or Bristol, and WAY more populous than towns like Newcastle and Sunderland), and so have a very loyal and sizeable fan base, much more so than most lower-division teams. While they have generally fallen short of selling out 40,000 seat Elland Road, they do routinely draw 25000-30000 fans to their matches, so their matchday income is pretty substantial. Leeds are often referred to as the “sleeping giant” of English football, and it’s pretty easy to see why — with that fanbase and essentially being the only team in a large city, there’s no reason that with decent on and off-pitch management they should not be a side which should be in the top-flight year in and year out.

And they seem to be on their way. They finished 2nd in League One in 2009-2010, earning promotion, and 7th in the Championship last season, one spot out of the promotion play-offs. is a good manager that has built a very solid team, and while they have had several high-profile defections to the Premiership (Jermaine Beckford scored 31 goals for them last season, and can’t find the goal for love or money for Everton this season; they sold highly-touted young midfielder Fabian Delph to Aston Villa for a lot of money), they have kept a very solid group of core players and brought in some useful additions.

Last year, Leeds very nearly did us in. They converted a penalty to take a 1-0 lead, and we had to bring on Cesc as a substitute late on. Cesc converted a last-minute penalty to salvage a 1-1 draw, and then we won the replay 3-1 behind goals from Nasri, Sagna, and van Persie. The year before that, Leeds knocked Man United out of the FA Cup with a 1-0 victory at Old Trafford. They’re dangerous.

They finished 7th place last season, just out of the promotion playoffs, and look to be in the hunt again this season, sitting 8th but just one point behind 5th place Reading.

There are some differences between this year’s team and last year’s model. Keeper Schmeichel is gone to Leicester City, and star midfielder/attacker Gradel is gone to St. Etienne in Ligue 1. And they have some injury woes — most notably, captain Jonny Howson, a key midfield presence, is out. Winger Robert Snodgrass, who has tallied 8 goals and 9 assists for Leeds this season, is also out. But they still have firepower — forward Ross McCormack, a Scottish international, already has 11 goals this season, and Argentine Luciano Becchio, while he has struggled this season coming off of ankle surgery, has scored more than 50 goals for Leeds since arriving in 2008. At the back, defenders Tom Lees and Alex Bruce (Steve’s son), are doubtful, and vice-captain Patrick Kisnorbo is out for the season, so those injuries may lead to disorganization that we can exploit.

As for us, we’re pretty threadbare at the back, as you know. Although Sagna has been back in training, he’s not available. Santos, Gibbs, and Jenkinson are all still out. Vermaelen is also still out. Djourou is suspended. We do still have Koscielny, Mertesacker, Miquel, and Squillaci, but you wonder if Wenger will try to rotate out guys like Koscielny and Mertesacker for the domestic cup, even though we don’t have a match mid-week. Reports are that Nico Yennaris has been training with the first-team, so I wonder if he won’t see some time at right-back.

We’re pretty healthy in midfield, but I do think Wenger will rotate the midfield here. Ramsey in particular has looked very tired the last couple of matches, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all to see him not start this one. Expect to see guys like Coquelin and Rosicky get a lot of time in this one. Out wide, I think we’ll see The OC and Benayoun, or possibly Arshavin. Theo played very poorly against Fulham, and was clearly still feeling the effects of his illness, so I see no reason to start him. Gervinho has already left to join up with the Ivory Coast squad for the ACN, so he’s unavailable.

Up front, van Persie has apparently been given a vacation and is in Dubai hanging out with Diego Maradona, so I can’t imagine we’ll see him involved. Park is fit and hasn’t played in a while, and apparently Chamakh is available for this one and will not leave to join up with the Morocco side until afterward. Oh yeah — there’s also some old guy that just joined the team, I guess he could be involved as well.

On the Henry thing, it’s cool that he’s back. He’s my all-time favorite player, and on some level it’s thrilling to see him back in red and white (well, Arsenal red and white) again. But the bottom line to me, is that he’s back for one reason and one reason only — to help Arsenal win matches. As longtime readers may remember, I was a Red Bulls season ticket holder the season before last and watched a fair few Red Bulls matches last season as well, so I’m more familiar with the state of his game than most. And while he’s still a good player, he really is not nearly the powerhouse that lit up Highbury for so many years. He doesn’t have anywhere near the pace or athleticism he used to, even by MLS standards, and so has to rely on skill and guile a lot more than he did in his heyday. He can’t create chances for himself on the ball like he used to be able to do, so the rest of the team will need to step up.

I think he can help us, but I do worry about expectations being a little too high, and this being a move driven more by nostalgia and sentiment more than an honest assessment of the best way for Arsenal to win. The other worrying aspect of this, for me, is that although he has said all the right things about just being here as a role player, etc., we don’t really have any precedent for Henry being happy when he’s not the focal point of the attack. It will be interesting to see if he can make that adjustment and learn to embrace squad player status. We’ll see.

Here’s my best guess at a lineup:

Wojo

Yennaris – Mertesacker – Squillaci – Miquel

Coquelin – Rosicky

The OC – Benayoun – Arshavin

Henry

Bench: Almunia, Koscielny, Song, Walcott, Ozyakup, Chamakh, Park

Honestly, who the hell knows. Even though Wenger usually likes to rest the first-choice keeper in domestic cup competitions, I had Wojo playing because Mannone is on loan and I believe Flaps is still injured. If Flaps is healthy, he’ll play. But if not, I just don’t think Wenger goes with Almunia if he can avoid it.

As I mentioned, apparently Yennaris has been training with the first team, and I think he gets the start at right back. I think either Koscielny or Mertesacker will be rested — I picked Kos to get the rest and Per to start. I had Squillaci alongside him and Miquel out left, but they could be reversed. I suppose someone like Daniel Boateng or Martin Angha could potentially be involved, but I don’t think they’re quite ready for that step up yet.

As I said, in midfield the issue is more resting tired players than dealing with injuries. I can’t see Ramsey starting, and either Rosicky or Yossi could start in the advanced role. I picked Yossi, but it could be Rosicky. I think Coquelin will spell Song, and I think a big question is who else will be in the withdrawn role. Could Arteta stay in the squad? Could Eastmond get a start? All possibilities. But I picked Rosicky to get the start there. It’s not his preferred role, but he’s done it before, and he’s smart enough, and tidy enough in possession, to not be a liability there.

Up front, Wenger has said that Henry will be involved, but is not fit enough to go 90 minutes. That could mean either (a) Henry starts and is subbed off after around 60-65 minutes; or (b) Henry comes on after 60-65 minutes as a substitute. I opted for the former, but it could easily be the latter. Chamakh could very well get a start, and we may even be treated to the rare Park start — Wenger has started Park regularly in the Carling Cup this season, so it wouldn’t be unprecedented.

Another option could be a 4-4-2, with Coquelin, Rosicky, Benayoun, and either Arshavin or The OC starting in midfield, and 2 out of the 3 of Chamakh, Park, and Henry starting. It wouldn’t be totally unprecedented — Park and Chamakh started the last Carling Cup match against Manchester City. We’ll see.

It’s hard to really say what to expect out of this one. We’re at home, against a lower division side, so it’s a match we should expect to win. On the other hand, we’ll be playing a lot of second-teamers who are not used to playing together, against a very motivated Leeds team, so it certainly won’t be easy. The FA Cup is our best shot at winning a trophy this season. They made the 4th round draw today, and, if we beat Leeds, we’ll play Aston Villa at home. They’re a top division side, so in some sense it’s a tough draw. But it’s at home, and they’re having a down season, so it’s certainly winnable. Manchester City is out of the field after losing to Manchester United today, so if we could get to the Round of 16, who knows what could happen. But getting knocked out and being able to focus on shoring up a finish in the top 4 wouldn’t be the end of the world, either.

Oh, and the annual “Kalou to Arsenal” rumor has happened. The Daily Fail is reporting that Kalou, who is out of the contract in the summer, has been unable to come to terms with Chelsea on a new deal, and thus Chelsea is looking to offload him for cheap. They report that we’ve offered 3 million for him. Kalou has been a long-rumored Arsenal target, enough so that I think Wenger genuinely is interested. Whenever I’ve seen him, I haven’t been too impressed, and he hasn’t played that much at all for Chelsea this season (4 starts and 4 substitute appearances). But his numbers over the last 4 seasons are actually pretty solid:

2010-2011: 22 starts, 19 substitute appearances, 13 goals, 6 assists
2009-2010: 21 starts, 16 substitute appearances, 12 goals, 3 assists
2008-2009: 30 starts, 13 substitute appearances, 10 goals, 10 assists
2007-2008: 32 starts, 14 substitute appearances, 9 goals, 10 assists
2006-2007: 25 starts, 33 substitute appearances, 9 goals, 10 assists

So his average over those 5 seasons is: 26 starts, 19 substitute appearances, 10.6 goals, 7.8 assists. Those numbers are undeniably pretty solid, and for a guy who’s not a true striker but can play on either wing, and stays healthy, 3 million starts to sound like a very good price indeed.

Anyway, 95% of these stories are bullcrap, this is probably no exception. But let’s hope for a win and moving on in the FA Cup, to get some positive momentum back going into the Swansea match this weekend.

Come on Arsenal.


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  • SJGgumby

    I wouldn't complain much about Kalou, though he's clearly not a savior.  But that's pretty irrelevant since clearly we won't be getting a savior this window, unless Henry has spent the last two weeks with one of those beer helmets with liquid HGH on one side and Mountain Dew on the other. 

    I can't imagine that Chelsea would be at all willing to help us out at this point.  Maybe they didn't see us as such a direct rival this summer (re yossi), but its pretty undeniable at this point.

  • Patoux21

    Even Santos a new signing caught the Arsenal disease of injuries it's hopeless! Arteta and Mert beware!

  • Patoux21

    Even Santos a new signing caught the Arsenal disease of injuries it's hopeless! Arteta and Mert beware!

  • Patoux21

    Even Santos a new signing caught the Arsenal disease of injuries it's hopeless! Arteta and Mert beware!

  • Patoux21

    Kalou isn't a bad player but he isn't a top player so he should fit nicely into Wenger's policy of spending cheap but not the best. I wish he would not sign W Bridge because this player is kind of a Squillaci version in left back position

  • Signing Kalou would be a very 'meh' signing to me. Kinda like re-signing Rosicky/Yossi but abit quicker. Good players, and helpful, but are they really game-changers?

  • caligunner

    If it did happen, and it seems unlikely considering the battle with Chelsea for places, I think it would mean that Arshavin is out the door.  We are talking about a squad player who is a winger, wide forward.  Its always nice to have more options at these positions.  It would give Arsenal a season or two to bring AOC on slowly and 3 solid attacking options wide who have experience.  Kalou can play on both sides of attack (something that Theo hasn't proven he is able to do consistently).

  • I don't disagree, although I think maybe he's a little bit better than that. I think he's probably closer to Theo. Which I guess begs the question -- Kalou is reportedly asking for 90k per week, Theo is reportedly asking for 85k per week. If we could pay 3 million for Kalou and sign him to a long-term deal for about what we would pay Theo, and could sell Theo for 15-20 million, would that be a decent trade? The pluses are that Kalou is more versatile, more skilled, has a better track record of production and staying healthy. The minuses are that Theo is faster, more talented, already integrated into the Arsenal set-up, and several years younger.

    Myself, I'd probably rather have Theo, but I like Theo better than just about anyone else. But I do think Kalou would be comparable in terms of production, and we could recoup the Walcott transfer fee (although given our track record the last few seasons I have no confidence we would actually reinvest it in the squad)

  • Kalou is not considered 'home-grown' is he? If not, I would be completely against this as we have enough of his ilk in the squad, imo. Selling Theo and filling Kalou in for him doesn't seem to make sense to me, as part of the benefit of Theo is he is home-grown. The benefit to Kalou is he is very experienced in the EPL.

    One question though... You say Kalou is more skilled, but Walcott is more talented? Is that not a contradiction?

  • I guess terms like "skilled," "talented," and "athletic" have different meanings to everyone, but to me, I guess I think of talent as being the potential to develop your game, including skills. When I think of skills, I refer mainly to ability to do things on the ball -- shooting, finishing, dribbling, and passing, etc. I don't think there's any doubt Kalou is better at those things than Walcott. But for me, talent is the innate abilities you have that need to be developed to help you be a complete player. Talent can eventually, but doesn't always, translate into being skilled or being good.

    In other words, saying a player is talented can mean that they have a lot of potential, but does not necessarily mean that they have figured out how to use it correctly yet. I would say that, for example, David Bentley was a very talented player when he was with us, but he never really became a very good player. Does that make sense or am I not explaining it right?

  • For what it's worth, the Kalou rumors have died down a bit. He's joined up with the Ivory Coast squad, and they have said he has no plans to return to London anytime soon. Someone at the BBC contacted Arsenal and the club officially denied making any approach, although who knows how reliable that is.

  • Rico

    It will be good to see some of our youngsters in action and to see whose progressing. Very keen on AOC and to see if Park has what it takes. 
    Would like to see Theo on the pitch as his confidence seems to have taken a hit, one on one with the keeper and puts it wide. Not exactly an ego boost. If he has a good game it may help his cause. 
    Can't wait to see what Henry will do, although not expecting much but you never know he may have some reserved magic for the Gunners!

    My apologies to Martin, I didn't say this previously... Welcome back! Looking forward to reading your work. 

  • gerba

    Kalou - rich man's attacking eboue. i imagine he has the same uncrushable and joyful spirit

  • Ryan

    Even as a Liverpool fan, seeing Henry on a teamsheet is down right sexy. No way is he going to tear apart Leeds like he did in 03-04, like you said. 

  • My favourite player ever, and surely the smoothest striker of the past couple decades.

    Nice to see you commenting here again, Ryan.

  • Ryan

    Thanks, ya I don't comment here much, but I have been voyeurin' like Wenger for quite a while. Good stuff, and I'm glad to see Martin back. Because of him, I now watch all football matches while listening to Wilco instead of commentary. 

  • Bah, bring back the Homey-Train

  • JG

    Nice to see you back, Martin. You haven't lost a step in your writing as well, excellent stuff.
    Also, for anyone reading this, do not, and I repeat DO NOT, click on the link FourFourTom posted yesterday on Twitter. Don't do it!
    Don't do it!
    What the hell, do it!

  • Orion

    Your reverse-psychology was well hidden. 

  • Homey_Mills

    Terrific writing, as always.  Good to have you back. 

    I would like to add a little extra note to your trip down memory lane with Leeds.  Their manager during their free-spending glory years was David O'Leary.  The same guy who had a staggering 558 appearances for Arsenal from 1975-1993.  He was also a starter for the amazing 1989 win at Liverpool, and was the only non-English Arsenal player that day. 

    And now you know, the rest of the story... (As Paul Harvey would say.)

  • Will

    Looks like you picked up Martin's knack for trivia during your spell here as a blogger, Homey (:

    We'll miss what you brought to the table here, even if our views were often at ends.
    And great write-up, Martin.. so excited to see Henry play again.

  • I would also like to welcome Martin back. It was always a shame that someone with such a talent for writing left, but now we can enjoy him once again!

    I would also like to say it's sad to see you leave the team, Homey. I probably argued against you more than with, but there's no better way to test your wits and expand your worldview than to debate with a well versed opponent. I wish you well and hope to see you in the comments regularly!

  • Robin

    Good to have u back Martin

  • Will

    how's Dubai?

  • Robin

    lol very funny, dats actually my REAL name

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