Nasri and Wilshere Up For PFA Awards; Frimpong Back With Reserves

As there's no new post today & presumably no one reading this I'm going to boldly state that we will win all our remaining games including a 3-0 victory over utd & win the league on goal difference.

Adebayor: a gunner, always a gunner.

punished lame spurs . :)

HAHA now he's a Gunner? I seem to remember Arsenal fans hating him and him clearing a whole pitch to celebrate a goal against Arsenal, not to mention his almost successful intentional attempt to maime RvP in the same game.

I've always liked him, but its far from certain that he ever was a real gunner; even though we did force him out.

Yeah, I still hate him, I don't care what he does against Spurs or anyone yet. He's a huge douche, and it's unbelievable that he's ended up at Real Madrid because he's tanked it at two clubs now.

I never understood all the animosity towards him, definitely not while he was still playing for us. I feel that if a man is putting on a shirt and trying to advance your cause, there should be some respect for him. And if you think he isn't good enough and there are better men for the job then your problem is with the manager; not the player.

Anyways, apparently he didn't get along with the squad; was that the reason for disliking him? People always complained that he was a lazy and didn't hustle but I always thought that by the time of those criticisms he was already a 'bad guy' and bad guys can't do anything right. If they hustle, they didn't go far enough, if they don't make a move, they should have, if they score a goal, they should not have missed the two other opportunities, etc.

"Trying to advance your cause" would be an interesting description of Adebayor during his last couple of seasons in an Arsenal shirt. Interesting because it wasn't true. Guy made Andrey Arshavin look like Roy Keane. And was constantly trying to engineer a move away from the club to boot, then wasn't even man enough to own up to it, saying that his agent's constant statements all summer that he wanted to play in Italy or Spain weren't authorized. And he didn't understand the offside rule. The only cause Adebayor has ever cared about advancing is his own, and he doesn't care a bit about throwing clubs or teammates under the bus in the process.

Well, that he "didn't own up" to the transfer rumors is a matter of your opinion of him isn't it? You either believe he hasn't owned up to leaving despite what he says or you believe him that his agent was stirring things up; maybe to raise his value, to get him noticed? And again, I've watched those games, and I personally wasn't particularly convinced of his laziness - again, I tend to like him, so maybe I cut him more slack than others - after all he was scoring roughly 1 goal for every 2 games he played (RvP is about 1/3). As for the offside business, see my previous sentence. You say he was disloyal to club and teammates - as to clubs, aside from the transfer rumor, what else; as for teammates, you seem to have taken the other teammate's side haven't you? There's always two versions of everything and what we think of someone always influences who we side with.

The fact is that his agent spent the entire summer going to the media talking quite openly about how he would like to play in Italy and Spain. If Adebayor had not, in fact, been trying to engineer a move out, he should have told his agent to knock it off. Can anyone honestly claim that if you were a footballer happy with your current situation and your agent started talking about how you wanted a move abroad, you wouldn't either (a) tell him to knock it off; or (b) just fire him without compunction? I can't imagine anyone not responding that way in that situation. But Adebayor didn't -- he let his agent fish around for offers all summer, and then threw his agent under the bus when it didn't work out. And then had the amazing presumptiveness to kiss the Arsenal badge when he scored in a preseason friendly.

And that's when the fans turned on him. I'm not irrational -- I understand that some players would rather play somewhere other than Arsenal, and if they work hard for Arsenal and leave in a classy way, I don't begrudge them that. I don't begrudge Eduardo, Henry, Flamini, or even Gallas for the way they left. But don't lie about it -- don't try as hard as you can to publicly engineer a move away from the club and then try to kiss the badge as some sort of pledge of loyalty when you obviously want to leave. I think that, more than anything, is why fans dislike him so much.

Martin, your argument will go no where, just let it be. This is the same guy who thinks I should put on my homer goggles and pay respect to Almunia. Even if one thinks a player on his team is shit, he is not supposed to say anything negative about that player and is supposed to blindly back him to no end.

Could it have been that he was too busy training, driving ultra expensive cars, or banging random broads or etc., (I know I'd be) to pay attention to shit like that during the summer? And the newspapers are usually all lies and intrigue, making something out of nothing.

What you say is perfectly fine, assuming of course that Ade knew what his agent was doing and took it seriously from the start. I always gave him the benefit of the doubt, always sounded like he had a shit agent and was himself to careless in not paying attention to what the guy was doing, rather than a desire to move and be underhanded.

Real Madrid are a real threat and might take a bite at Barcelona if they manage to beat Tottenham, and the same with Barcelona and Shakthar.

Hum...I must say it has been a long time that I haven't looked at one of Arsenal's game. Don't get me wrong, I still support them, but I really hope they overcome they recent setbacks...

so you'll start watching once the Gunners start winning? You support fully during the good times but when the team wavers you lose interest? Thats really what your last sentence says to me - hope I'm wrong. Or maybe your first team is Arsenal, in which case thats fine.

You are a funny one... I never mentioned the reason why I could not watch Arsenal's games recently. It might have been due to a lack of time rather than a lack of interest, don't you think?

just the way it read man - I said I hoped I was wrong.

*is not Arsenal

Hugely entertaining day of the CL today. Now let's hope for an Eduardo hat-trick tomorrow as Shakthar take on Barca!

Spuds lose 4-0 at the Bernabeu. Ahhh that cheered me up after a few hard weeks!

Nothing cheers up an Arsenal fan like a good Spurs thrashing... especially by a team that, with some improvements and a little special one "know-how" can possibly unseat Bartha - the lisping 12 person lady-boys squad

To be fair, Schalke have certainly been impressive (anyone think Raul still had some gas left in the tank?), but Inter have imploded. 10 men, horrendous defending, bloopers- you name it. Schalke won it as much as Inter lost it.
And Adebayor is still a greedy dirtbag, but yay for him for scoring two goals against teh Spurs, who are now certainly shit. Remember when 'Arry said they were going for the title in November?

Inter has become my second favorite team after their heroic thrashing of Bartha in the CL finals last year - I watch every one of their games unless there is a conflict with Arsenal, and I'm sorry to say that you're right. What an implosion - worthy of Arsenal might I add. It probably has something to do with that beating they took from Milan last weekend.

I'm not sure what is worse, you backing Adebayor or elevating Inter to "2nd favourite" team status.

And Schalke up 4-2 against Inter at the San Siro. This certainly gives creedence to those who weren't impressed with Spurs winning that group. Schalke currently sit 10th in the Bundesliga.

11th with minus 2 goal diff.

Then again, Inter did beat Bayern Munich, currently 3rd.

True although that was due mostly through luck rather than design....they were hammered in all but score line. I really do feel that there has been quite a slump in both individual quality and quality sides over the last couple of years, not only in England but Europe. Excluding barcalona(of course).

Real Madrid up 2-0 against Spurs. Adebayor grabbing both goals. Spurs down to 10 men with Crouch going off. Honestly, it's hard to decide who to root against more.

3-0 now. It feels SO GOOOOOD to watch Spurs get spanked. Take that Spurs fans (including my brother) that gloated about still being in the CL. Seems like when you play a decent team you can't hack it.

Yeah, Nani definitely deserves to be on there, it's baffling.

Also, it's been said before, but it bears repeating -- it is incredibly stupid that they vote on these things in February, when only 2/3 of the season has been played.

Must be a British thing.
In rugby, they decide the MoM award 3-4 minutes before the end of the game.

Ejaculatio precox. There, I said it.

Oh Silly Martin, with your sound logic and all.
Everyone know the FA is mental and don't do anything with consistency and logic.

The problem with this award is that it is essentially a popularity contest.

http://www.fivecantonas.com/pf...

Nani rubs opponents up the wrong way, and as it's his opponents voting, he's not going to be anywhere near the awards.