Who Is… Robin van Persie

By: Darren_v | November 21st, 2011

Full Name: Robin van Persie

Date of Birth: August 6, 1983

Place of Birth: Rotterdam, Netherlands

Height: 1.83 m (6 feet)

Weight: 71 Kg. (156.5 lbs)

Squad Number: 10

Robin van Persie was born on August 6, 1983 in the eastern district of Rotterdam, called Kralingen. Unlike the average professional footballer who grew up poor, Robin was born in a moderately wealthy family. His mother, Jose Ras, was a painter and jewelry designer, and his father, Bob, was a sculptor, and Robin was one of three children, having two sisters who’s names are Lilly and Kiki.

Having grown up in a multi-ethnic area which is home to Rotterdam’s major university, Erasmus University, and into an extremely artistic family, Robin was strongly encouraged to follow in his family’s footsteps to go into arts. Robin preferred to play football however, and at the age of four he joined the local district club, SBV Excelsior. Following his parents divorce and conflicts with the coaching staff at Excelsior, Robin would sign for Feyenoord at the age of 5, and from then would live with his father. Robin would be quickly promoted through the ranks at the Dutch club, and received KNVB Best Young Talent award in 2000/01. He then made his professional debut at the age of 17, thanks to the irony of injuries as the first-team squad was going through an injury problem at the time. van Persie would record 15 caps that first season in 2001/02, and would receive the Dutch Football Talent of the Year for his efforts.

‘I don’t see things the way my parents do,’ he says. ‘They can look at a tree and see something amazing, whereas I just see a tree. That’s not to say I don’t appreciate its beauty. When I watch the sea in somewhere like Sardinia, I see the beauty in that. ‘But I think there is a creative connection with my parents. It’s hard to explain in words, hard to put my finger on it. But I think football is where my creativity comes out.’
-Robin van Persie

To start the 2002/03 season, Feyenoord signed their young star to a 3.5 year deal, and it van Persie continued to show his talents on the pitch, typified by scoring 5 goals in one match in the domestic league cup match on Feb 3. Robin van Persie was well-known for being one of the most misbehaved students while in school, and this attitude would prove to give him difficulties with his club football. van Persie would encounter the difficulties of transitioning from youth football, to a career in football and playing for a livelihood and the consequences of money in the game. In an interview with the Daily Mail, he reveals how he attempted a trick during an UEFA Cup match and then faced the ire of elder teammates saying ‘Don’t do that again. You are playing with my money!’ He would also experience difficulties with the hierarchy at the Dutch club, specifically with club star, one Pierre van Hooijdonk. After booking a massage in the midst of a quick run of games, van Persie would show up only to have ranked pulled on him by the club’s star and found no one around to support his case. Most importantly however, van Persie would find himself at odds with the club manager, Bert van Marwijk, which would result in van Persie being demoted to the the reserve squad, with the manager claiming “his behavior made it impossible for him to remain in the squad any longer.” And when van Persie would be later recalled to the first team, van Marwijk would end up sending the youngster home on the eve of the 2002 UEFA Super Cup final against Real Madrid after the manager was displeased with Robin’s body language when told to warm up during a Champions League qualifier.

The following season Feyenoord would unsuccessfully extend the contract with van Persie, and so sent on a search to sell off the striker who’s relationship with their manager was in shambles. They would be unable to sell him however, most clubs citing concerns with his disciplinary issues. After prolonged negotiations, Feyenoord would finally land a deal for van Persie and on May 17, 2004, Arsenal would sign the striker for 2.75 million Euros, a little over half of their 5 million asking price. van Persie would make his Arsenal debut as a sub during the 2004 Community Shield match v Manchester United and earn his first Arsenal trophy as the Gunners won the match 3-1. His first competitive debut would come on October 27 and would score the opener in a 2-1 League Cup win over Manchester City.

A change of city, culture, teammates and a new manager seemed not to change Robin van Persie’s demeanor. Shortly after a car accident where van Persie crashed his expensive car into a lamp post at night, he would receive his first sending off at Arsenal. On February 26, Arsenal would go to Southampton and after throwing an elbow at Roy Delap, van Persie would loose his head and rashly lunge at Graeme Le Saux, earning him his second yellow of the game, prompting Arsene Wenger to seemingly be captured “offering only his second recorded public profanity as he asked Van Persie what on earth he thought he was doing.” and for reporter Clive White claim that Robin van Persie was “21 (yrs old) going on nine.” Wenger would bench van Persie for a period of games before an injury to Henry would force him back into action, and would score two goals in a win over Blackburn, before an injury to end van Persie’s season off, finishing his first season with 10 goals in 41 appearances for the London club.

The 2005/06 season would begin with van Persie scoring eight goals in eight games, and resulting the Dutchman with the Player of the Month award for November, and a contract extension with Arsenal. By some rude irony, he would break his toe two days later, and play the rest of the season with a hole cut into his shoe to alleviate the pain and allow him to continue to play. The season would end with van Persie being an unused substitute in the Champions League final loss to Barcelona, and he would end the season with 11 goals in 38 matches.

RVP_Bouchra van Persie’s personal life would experience it’s ups and downs, as he married his long time girlfriend Bouchra on March 31, 2005. While on international duty for the Netherlands during the summer, van Persie would be arrested on suspicion of rape of former Miss Holland Sandra Krijgsman. He would spend two weeks in jail before being released. He was later found to have lied about the events of the night, but there was no evidence of non-consensual actions taken place whatsoever. He would describe those two weeks “I remember sitting there just thinking what a waste of time it was. I tried to stay positive and I never panicked because I knew the truth, but I just lost two weeks of my life for nothing. ‘Lots of positives came out of it, though. I learned a lot about the people around me and I learned a lot about life. At 21, life can seem easy and I suddenly realized the world doesn’t always work like that”

The 2006/07 season was most memorable for Robin when he score that goal against Charlton Athletic.

van Persie would become a father for the first time November 16 as Bouchra gave birth to their son Shaqueel. He was named Rotterdam’s Sportsmen of the Year in 2006, but his season was ended early for the 2nd time in an Arsenal jersey when he fractured the fifth metatarsal in his right foot when celebrating a goal against Manchester United in January. Despite that, he still finished first on Arsenal’s scoring charts, with 13 goals and 8 assists in 31 matches.

The 2007/08 season began with Arsenal starting life without Thierry Henry, and van Persie was called upon to lead the line with Emmanuel Adebayor. Van Persie would score seven goals in 10 matches before a knee injury with the Dutch National team would sideline him for two months. He would re-injure himself and miss another month, and the rest of the season was frustrating for him and Arsenal as he only featured sporadically the rest of the season, featuring in only 23 matches and only scoring 9 goals.

“I think you will miss many more chances with your chocolate leg if you think negatively, thinking that it’s not your strong foot,”
-Robin van Persie

The 2008/09 season would begin with van Persie recording a brace August 31 in a 3-0 win over Newcastle United. He would then score his 50th Arsenal goal in that crazy 4-4 draw away at Tottenham, but then received his 2nd red card with Arsenal on November 1 in a 2-1 lose to Stoke City when he foolishly head-butted keeper Thomas Sorensen, who later admitted to ‘teasing’ van Persie to provoke a reaction which worked too well for all Arsenal fans’ liking and raised remembrance to his old petulant ways. van Persie would receive the honor of captaining the Arsenal for the first time on January 3, 2009 in a 3-1 over Plymouth where RvP would pot 2 goals himself. January would be the month that Robin van Persie would either score or assist every single Arsenal goal, earning him the club’s Player of the Month. The season would end against Stoke City where a RvP brace would ensure him as the club’s leading scorer for the 2nd time in his career. With 20 goals and 15 assists, Arsenal would name Robin as their Player of the Year.

The summer of 2009 would see a contract extension with Arsenal with him being quoted as saying, “My heart is with Arsenal and I just can’t picture myself in a different shirt. I just can’t see it now because I love this Club so much.” Emmanuel Adebayor’s departure would see Wenger changing formations and inserting van Persie as the lone striker, a position which many wondered if he could excel at. van Persie would continue to rack up the assists for Arsenal, his movement and positional awareness proving to be exceptional, and was named the Barclay’s Player of the Month in October, the 2nd such award. November would bring about international friendlies, and yet another injury for the Dutchman which would prevent him to play for five long months as Arsenal would play without a recognized striker for long stretches of the campaign and for some fans to start considering him as ‘a good luxury player, but completely undependable.’ Robin had been impressive when playing, but with only 20 matches in which he managed 10 goals and 8 assists, the comments had some painful merit to them.

CaptainRobin

The new campaign of 2010/11 would start with van Persie donning the classic No.10 jersey and bringing back memories of Arsenal and Dutch legend Dennis Bergkamp, but in style and now, number. van Persie would record his 200th match for Arsenal on August 28, and it would end in familiar scenes; an ankle injury and a place on the treatment table yet again. It would take van Persie until January 1 of 2011 to record his first goal of the season, and a fortnight later he would add a brace to his tally, making him the fourth Dutchman to score 50 goals in the English top division. On the 22nd of January, van Persie would record his first hat-trick for Arsenal against Wigan, followed by 2 goals in up in Newcastle, and then yet another brace the following week against Wolverhampton, setting a new record for the most goals scored in the first 2 months of a calendar year with ten. February 27 would signal Arsenal’s return to a Cup final since 2006, and van Persie would score the equalizer for the Gunners, getting injured on the play. He would return for the Champions League return match against Barcelona where he would be sent off in absurd fashion for scoring a goal one second after being whistled for offside and in the the post-game interview he would call the decision a “Total joke”, claiming that with the noise of the 95,000-strong crowd he could not hear the whistle. On April 24 he would become the first player to score in seven successive Premier League matches, a record which he would extend to nine games on the final game of the season at Fulham. He finished the season with 22 goals and 7 assists in 33 matches, equaling the record of 18 league goals from the turn of the year to the end of the season held by Christiano Ronaldo and Thierry Henry himself. His goal in the first leg against Barca in the Champions League would be named the club’s goal of the season.

“Robin van Persie’s such an amazing footballer. He hardly needs any space or time to become dangerous.”
-Bert van Marwijk (oh the irony)

Following the (thankfully?) departure of Cesc Fabregas, Robin van Persie was named captain of Arsenal to start the 2011 season. He recorded his 100th goal for Arsenal on September 24, becoming the 17th Arsenal player to reach the century milestone. He then recorded the fastest goal in a league match (28 seconds) against Sunderland on October16 and then recorded his 2nd career hat-trick at Arsenal in the 5-3 win at Chelsea. He was subsequently named the Premier League Player of the Month for October. In 17 matches thus far in 2011 van Persie has already scored 15 goals, along with 3 assists. He has currently scored in five consecutive league matches, and has scored 10 of the Arsenal 15 goals in their current five game win streak. In the 2011 calendar year, Robin van Persie has played 29 matches and has scored 31 League goals. It is a record that is only equaled by two Premier League legends, Alan Shearer and Thierry Henry.

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Robin van Persie is now 28 years old and in the prime of his career. He is finally healthy and showing the quality that he has always possessed, and was only partially shown thanks to his many, various injury issues. Arsenal is not a one-man team, but no one can deny or question how much van Persie means to the club at this time. He is the captain, the leader, the leading goal scorer. He is the face of this Arsenal squad, and he is showing how a true captain leads his squad.
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**Thanks to @oranje_sky who helped compile this

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Phil

An unbelievable player who seems to be leading the team effortlessly.
Two things concern me- I hope he avoids injury and signs an extension. I think he will in the end.
He is now delivering the form consistently that we have been waiting 7 years for and all us gooners are enjoying the moment and long may it last!
adam el tani

nice blog
Gigi_man

preview!!
Darren_V

For all you who want these on each and every player, just remember...
Diaby, Bentdner, Squillaci and Denilson are all still Arsenal players.
Perry S.

Darren -- FORZA NAPOLI!!!
Darren_V

EDISON CAAAVVVANNIIII.
I want him at Arsenal.
ben_e-b

Great article. One cavaet: some absolutely atrocious useage of the word 'irony'.
Kel

As usual very good article, keep it up mate, "a breath of fresh air"
Lana Dawood

Great article! An amazing tribute to a fantastic player!!
Gigi_man

off, way off subject; man I was just zapping the TV, has anyone seen a movie called Eastern Promises? an Arsenal fan just got killed in what seemed an Arsenal Chelsea fans going or coming from a game....what a shock!
perryvs

the guy in that moive was killed because he had ties to a rival Russian Mafia, not because he was donning the red and white
Gigi_man

yeah I know man, I figured it wasnt for that reason, but still, seeing a fellow gooner killed like that in a movie, shocking!
Gigi_man

very well written! and inspiring.
Perry S.

Great write-up. Like my all time favourite hockey player, Van Persie is my footie version of Forsberg. Amazing finesse, skill, and grit, but a body that just doesn't hold up well.
John

I don't believe enough people have congratulated you for this article, but well done it's bloody amazing, I can't imagine how long it all took, but a class tribute to a class player.
Darren_V

Thank you for the kind words. Do come around more often!
Ryan

I really, really don't understand the mind of a footballer. Maybe it's because I've never had any significant amount of wealth or fame ever in my life. I consider myself to have only been a major football fan since the 2008-2009 season, but since then I've seen lots of "fan favorite" players leave their clubs. I am a Liverpool fan, so I'm not exactly "in the know" about Arsenal, but I just can't see Van Persie leaving for another club. I might have said the same thing about Fernando Torres, but I think that was a completely different set of circumstances.

I saw an interview with Thierry Henry after the Champions League final in 2009. The interviewer, in a media whorish fashion, had to point out that "it must be nice, being finally able to win the Champions League". Of course, Henry agreed, because well. Duh. it's nice to win the Champions League. It's nice to get free sandwiches, too. But to win the trophy alongside Messi, Eto'o, Xavi, and Iniesta. How is that accomplishing to a footballer? Ya you won the Champions League, no shit. You're playing with the same players who beat you at Arsenal 3 years ago. That short fellow playing in your favored position is arguably the best player of all time. And immediately after this game, you'll be deemed surplus due to the emergence of Pedro Rodriguez. Was he really a fool thinking he was the star man after his first season? Now he's playing on Mt. Olympus, in the well paying retirement home for former Titans and Gods.

I used to think it was all about the money. But then I read a tidbit around here that said that Henry was one of the best payed footballers in the world at his peak with Arsenal. I used to think it was about personal achievements and that players only have one career and one chance to be 27, but EVEN THEN. It's not like he was a Landon Donovan amongst a bunch of mediocre players. He was part of a Champions League team, a top 4 team. And he was the captain, the leader, the most respected, a legend. And he risked his reputation for one trophy?

I apologize for saying a bunch of crap you all know very well, and also sorry for changing the subject off of Van Persie. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I never really saw Fabregas as being a team talisman for Arsenal even in 2009-2010 when he was at his best (from what I saw). And everyone knew Fabregas would eventually leave for Barcelona, and that hampered his reputation and respect for the past 2 years. Van Persie is the main man at Arsenal, and why would he risk becoming a Fernando Torres, or an Ashley Cole for that matter, to just win a trophy? To me, trophies don't exactly translate to accomplishments. Winning a trophy with Arsenal would be an accomplishment for Van Persie. Winning a trophy with Manchester City on your debut season would just be...a trophy. Am I right? or am I totally missing the point altogether? These players don't make sense to me. Why don't players want to be Paul Scholes, Steven Gerrard, Del Piero, Ryan Giggs, or for heaven's sake, Jack Wilshire? All of those players (except Wilshire, his day will come) are respected globally. Adebayor, Torres, and Nasri are only respected for a season or two, and will totally fade away in years to come. Van Persie has shown with his words and his actions that he is no idiot, and I can't see anyone but an idiot choosing a little bit more money over a huge amount of honor. Sure, he's not winning trophies and it might be a season or two before that happens. But he's the best striker in the EPL. Like he won't be able to tell people that for the next decades without a big chunk of gold in his hand.

Imagine what an accomplishment it would be for Steven Gerrard to win the Premier League when he's 35 with Liverpool. Now compare that to Michael Owen winning it last year with Manchester United. See my point?
Alex

As a die-hard Arsenal fan I thank you for saying this. I wish more footballers would adopt the Giggs/Scholes mentality of staying with one club and becoming a legend. Loyalty to a club is something that is dying in today game. Nasri and Adebayor will never be remember like van Persie or Henry
LachlanS

I am of the opinion that Henry left not because of money (I highly doubt that his move was one that made him too much more if any more than staying) or to win that trophy (although I'm sure the trophy may have helped his decision along), but because he was unhappy amongst the group.

He was a player from a different generation of the Arsenal, and it was his time to move on. By stepping aside he allowed a new young player to step right up and become a world beater. In addition he was given the captain's armband, which I believe he would not have wanted at all, but there was no one else in the squad who could possibly have taken it over him.

I do very much like your point, however, that players like Na$ri will be forgotten (unless of course he becomes a hero in the international game), whilst players like Bergkamp and Xavi are considered heroes. It is very true in so many ways. Whilst I think Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi are of very similar quality, I hold Messi in much higher regard than Ronaldo, and I assume that is why. I understand that it is probably not a fair comparison, but it is the way I feel nontheless.

There are countless other great players throughout the ages that I know are truly brilliant players, but whom I don't have too much respect for. Ronaldo (the Brazilian one) is such an example. Footballers who are in their prime may have a lot of trouble comprehending this difference until it is too late. They are likely to chase trophies and money and do not care too much about their reputation until they begin to be forgotten in the twilight of their career. Who remembers Ronaldo retiring? Many fewer than those who remember Paul Scholes retiring I would think.

If van Persie moves on, I think he is smart enough to not do so for money or trophies. He may be frustrated with the club's lack of ambition, may not get on with some of the other players, or may feel that the time for the club to move on without him has arrived. Whatever his reason may be, I doubt it will be for money (alone).

I am sure that if he continues his hot form that we will be willing to pay him the sort of wages he deserves, and that he would consider staying. If I were him, I would do everything in my power, however, to end the club's complacency and make sure we bring in players in the positions that we need.

Great write up Darren, I didn't really know much about his past and found it very interesting to know that he was a bit of a trouble maker in his youth.
Darren_V

I was thinking of adding in more international history, but it was becoming too long.
Let's just say he has some long-standing 'rivalries' with some former Ajax players, most notably Wes Sneijder.
Homey_Mills

I pretty much agree with all of what you wrote. However, let me take another angle on it, which is an angle that RvP might be taking. Let's pretend that in the latter stages of Alan Shearer's career, he asked for a move to a bigger club, so that he'd have a chance to end his career with some titles. Other than Newcastle fans, I don't know that a lot of people would object.
The question is, is our club closer to Newcastle or Man City? Obviously I'd answer that it's closer to Man City. But if we finish this season with seven straight years of no titles, plus no really ambitious spending, then I think RvP would be within his rights to think it's not going to happen, despite his individual brilliance.
LachlanS

Not to seem rude, but I think you have missed one of the key points here Homey. Ryan has suggested that it is idiotic for a footballer to move to a team just to win a trophy. Would RVP feel better with himself as an Arsenal club legend if he spends the next 6 years or so with us or would he feel better if he moved to Man City and won a couple of local trophies? Would it really fill that gap?
Homey_Mills

Well the way I read it was more according to his final paragraph. And that is, it's better to stay and try to win a title with the club you've been with for years, rather than move somewhere else and hope it happens there. So my response was that perhaps if the player doesn't think it's ever going to happen at his original club, then perhaps there's a reason to move on. But still, as I said in my first sentence, I basically agree with his points.
LachlanS

Sorry what I meant didn't come out. I think Ryan is aware of how RVP may justify a move, I think he is claiming that it is poor justification.
Ryan

Yes, exactly. Most people fully understand the scenario that RVP could put Arsenal in: he's "done his time with Arsenal" and would now like to win something before he retires. It's hard to believe that an intelligent footballer like RVP sees winning a trophy with another team as "fulfilling".

Another thing I've thought of recently: What Champions League level team is actually lacking a "RVP" type player to be successful? Chelsea do have striker issues, but they couldn't affor-...wait, they could afford him, but it would be so damn stupid to spend silly money like that...right?...anyway. Common sense rules out all England teams, and unless he's looking for a Fabregas reunion, the Spanish teams are all full up. He could try be both Bergkamp and Van Basten in one career by moving to Milan, or start a Dutch rave party at Inter. What I'm trying to say with this point is that he'll have to step down from being team capitan talisman, to supersub "oh just run around and nab a goal for 10 minutes" guy. Not exactly a better scenario than Arsenal with the children.
LachlanS

I have no idea what sort of transfer fee would be required to nab him with a year left on his contract, but I can't imagine it would be huge. Nothing more than 30 million surely?

But would a club like Liverpool or Tottenham not just love the opportunity to knock back competition? If Tottenham knock us off this season and end up in third, they would be looking not too bad really, and RVP would be the perfect man to fill their empty striker slot.

But beyond that I do see what you mean, there are very few big teams that could guarantee him a trophy that would take him.
Martin

I don't know -- if he stays healthy (and that's admittedly a big if) the rest of the season and keeps up his current form, even at the age of 29, with only a year left on his contract, I think he'd go for more than 30 million. When you consider what other players have gone for in recent years, I was thinking more 35-40 million. But we'll see, I could very well be wrong.
Darren_V

Borussia Dortmund would be an amazing fit for van Persie.
I feel like crying at the thought....
LachlanS

We could always make a trade?
Hamid

and a replica of that brilliant comment would go to arsene wenger as i could bet my house that if he was english they would name a street on his name,but hey thanks god all the AFC fans with a brain knows his exact value and it is IRREPLACEBLE for now at the least
Perry S.

keywords: "AFC fans with a brain." ;)
Ben

Spot on mate, agree 100%.
satan

Are you doing one of these for each first team player?
Darren_V

If people are interested in these, then perhaps.
satan

Fantastic work, now on to Szczesny!! Haha a little bit to young?
annnbug

I think you should! I really enjoyed that piece in van Persie
annnbug

*I really enjoyed this piece on van Persie.

Sorry, I'm typing while lying down.
Darren_V

We all know what you meant Ann ;)
LachlanS

I'd be keen for some for the longer serving members if you have the time. Although I'd be happy to try and write one if you like.
Itti

we all love persie. adore him. also to The arsenal fans. we know he is as good as messi or ronaldo.
But for all the talents he is not blessed with an equal body. he reminds me of van basten. he has all the talents to be one of greatest in football. but couldnt stay fit to fulfill his destiny.

we all know VP will be injured and it will be a lengthy one. we just pray he stays fit enough to push us to top 4 position.

on talent i rate him even higher than Henry. but its not his fault nor i blame him or wenger.
he is soo good that wenger cant just say ok lets sign another main striker and get rid of him. nor its his fault for the injuries.

everyday i pray to god he stays fit !!!!
Patoux21

Spurs can't stop winning it's going to be hard to catch them and Adebayor scored twice...
LachlanS

I'm sure a few bad results will come up for them, we just need to wait and minimise our own. And beat them at the Emirates of course.
Homey_Mills

I still don't think they'll hold up over the course of a full season. A couple of injuries and they're in trouble. But I've been wrong before...
Bumblefock

a couple of injuries and any team is in trouble. with modric, bale, adebawhore, van der wank they are tough
JG

Eh. Gets injured too often, too lanky to truly be world class. Rather have Heskey, he has great link-up play!
Orion

Stop making me fall in love with him even more, it's going to hurt so bad next summer.
Bumblefock

correction: his scoring record is 9 Away matches in a row, if i'm not mistaken.
Darren_V

"a record which he would extend to nine games on the final game of the season at Fulham"
brenton

I think Bbf's point was that the record is in nine AWAY games, whereas you state "the first player to score in seven successive Premier League matches (etc)".
Darren_V

"he would become the first player to score in seven successive Premier League matches, a record which he would extend to nine games on the final game"

When he originally scored the 7th successive away goal, he was the first one to do it and it was the record. He then extended it to 9 goals.
brenton

Yes. But in your original sentence you don't mention that the record was in seven successive AWAY matches. AWAY. AWAAAAAYYYYYYY. The seven/nine isn't under argument. It's that it wasn't "seven successive Premier League matches", but rather seven (then nine) successive AWAY matches.
Darren_V

*hangs head in shame*
Perry S.

ON LOAN.
Darren_V

There is nothing quite like having the pie shoved into your face multiple times before you realize the pie really is on your own face....
Homey_Mills

Obviously this was an inside, inside joke. But it made me laugh.
Bumblefock

off-topic - watching spuds vs villa. spuds is a greater danger then chelsea of liverpool for us this year thanks to renegadebawhore.

on-topic - robin is awesome
Girmaga98

yes indeed. It is a great article.
Mike Howells

Yea, he's okay.
Martin

Meh. He's no Bendtner.
Darren_V

I so want him back at Arsenal so I can do one of these on him.
Gunnerson

Do one on Benayoun... with a touch more romance.
Darren_V

Romance? Save that for Per ;)
Perry S.

No save that for our internet creeper, Szczesny.